michael.ellingson: Hopefully,
michael.ellingson: This is the first time doing a zoom meeting and sharing and all this kind of stuff. I've done a lot of zoom meetings, but not as a whole. So hopefully this goes good but
michael.ellingson: I will start off by
michael.ellingson: Making sure I know how to share my screen here.
michael.ellingson: Alright hopefully everybody can see that. And what I'm here to talk about is just some updates on what we're doing on buildings and infrastructure and funding and where we're at. So hopefully everybody can hear me is, and I think Chris, do you said you can hear me before. Correct. Okay.
michael.ellingson: All right. Um,
michael.ellingson: Alright, so what do I want to talk about today, or three. I'm going to split it up into three categories. And then in between each category. I'll just pause for a second. Take a breath, see what kind of questions we have, but three categories are cleaning
michael.ellingson: first round of funding by the state of North Dakota, which has been approved, things that are in the first round, we're more of a you know a Tai Chi attach item a pee pee.
michael.ellingson: Supply signage that surprisingly enough, we could not put any infrastructure items like H back. We're not allowed in the first round of funding. So if you're wondering why we didn't do it as
michael.ellingson: They weren't allowed but after the funding was approved. There was another second round, and that second round. We've been through two out of the three
michael.ellingson: Groups for approval and next week we hope to get our final approval, which is a legislative body and in that second round, we have
michael.ellingson: A few more items that we could ask for some more pee pee or plexiglass or items like that, but we were allowed to ask for H back in that second round. So I'll give you a little update on where we're at. There
michael.ellingson: So just started off the cleaning. I'm going to start with some of the questions that we've gotten a lot of questions about registered schedule classrooms. One of the things that we're doing. And if you see something highlighted in yellow, then
michael.ellingson: That is we've changed our we changed our routine and what we've done, we used to do door knobs light switches. We tried to target that maybe once a day. Now we're going to target a lot of the touch items twice a day tables hard chairs desks and registered schedule classrooms.
michael.ellingson: There was some classrooms that we really didn't sanitize but maybe once or twice a semester we are now going to try to hit every classroom registered schedule classroom every morning.
michael.ellingson: And part of the funding that helped us is we're able to buy some equipment that help us go through and spray and disinfect the classrooms on a daily basis.
michael.ellingson: We're going to be removing GARBAGE GARBAGE daily vacuuming and sweeping where we can. And again, I just have to leave or throw out the caveat. This is what our goal is, this is what our target is.
michael.ellingson: But hopefully we make it into November and December, our staff also has to shovel entries and do other things.
michael.ellingson: You know there's people that might miss for sicknesses or vacations. And so this is our target but hopefully we can achieve it.
michael.ellingson: And then also in every classroom we're setting up a disinfectant station and what that'll involved is a spray bottle of our disinfecting
michael.ellingson: Solution that we use a set of gloves and some paper towels. Some cases. It'll be on a little table. Some cases that will be on existing case work or or other
michael.ellingson: Device that's in the classroom and and really what that is for is twofold. One is this for students if they want to come in because there's just no way
michael.ellingson: For us to go in between every classroom between every class and wipe things down or disinfect so this gives us students an opportunity if they want to wipe down that surface they can
michael.ellingson: It also gives the instructor or the faculty a chance to wait down their desk in between if they're moving from one classroom to another. I just were use the word of caution that this is a disinfectant solution. It's not rated to be sprayed on electronic equipment or the plexiglass
michael.ellingson: So I just wanted to throw that out.
michael.ellingson: I'm cleaning conference rooms are going to go in and continue to do door knobs light switches tables and chairs daily you take out the garbage daily and in all with a lot of these extra fee or
michael.ellingson: A lot of these extra functions that we picked up, we'll try to vacuum when time permits, but again, it'll be day by day week by week situation.
michael.ellingson: For labs will do door knobs and light switches. Typically, we haven't gone into the labs for various reasons.
michael.ellingson: And then some of the labs. We do take out the garbage. So it's every pretty much everything on this page is what we have historically done there isn't a lot that's changed there.
michael.ellingson: Outside of like the door knobs. We're going to try to do them if possible for the offices twice a day light switches, some of the high touch areas.
michael.ellingson: Again vacuum. We're going to do once per week, but it's going to be. It'll be various based on a lot of factors. And then we'll take out the garbage daily
michael.ellingson: Public areas. Our goal is going to be again twice. We're going to try to do this twice a day door knobs handles handrails lights which is power door operators vending machines.
michael.ellingson: Elevator controls drinking fountains what the body water bottle fill stations restaurants surfaces. Any of what I consider, they're very, very high touch surfaces. We're. Our goal is to try to do them twice her day
michael.ellingson: On the departmental controlled teaching spaces research lab specialty areas other spaces typically areas that we haven't cleaned that will be continued to be the responsibility of the research or the Department
michael.ellingson: I would like to add that we did request for some funding for disinfecting stations.
michael.ellingson: For office suites. So if you want to bottle of our disinfecting solution to put in labs. We've gotten a lot of requests for those
michael.ellingson: We will will continue to issue them out as long as we have funding available, you can set it up just like we've done in the classrooms.
michael.ellingson: And then also
michael.ellingson: If you want to. I just encourage you to reach out to it when it comes to some of the equipment, whether it's a keyboard or whatnot, again, I encourage you not to use this disinfectant on keyboards or electronics or screens.
michael.ellingson: The cleaner. We have if you spray it on plexiglass with time it'll discolour it it takes to finish off it.
michael.ellingson: So the for plexiglass it's usually soap and water and a microfiber. The other thing I'd like to throw out is, is that for departments in like your office suite. If you have a bottle.
michael.ellingson: I know we have these disposable wipes that you know you spray on and it's just paper wipes there. They're like a may come in a box. You could also visit with our custodial staff and
michael.ellingson: You know microfiber and we're washing these. I don't know what their frequency is but that's also something that, you know, from a cost savings.
michael.ellingson: Versus towels on microfiber can be better. But again, we'll leave it up to the departments and then departmental equipment still be read still is the responsibility of the departments like deaths telephones workstations copiers printers, whatnot.
michael.ellingson: So I'm going to take a breath. That was just a very quick round and cleaning is or any questions that I can answer.
kristi steinmann: In a couple come in.
kristi steinmann: From the chat for office garbage cans. Is there a trap. If there's trash in the can will liners be changed or reuse like before.
michael.ellingson: Good question. And and the intent is if there's trash. Historically, I'm hoping. Most cases they're they're changed out specifically we tried to change them own
michael.ellingson: Because people will have maybe apples or bananas or liquids or some other product that gets thrown in there. So, but, yeah, those containers still should be exchanged out
kristi steinmann: There's two questions about bathrooms. Will there be foot poles installed so that you can open doors without touching the handles, and then another one about if the bathroom garbage cans can have lids removed so we can dispose paper towels without touching the lid.
michael.ellingson: Good actually both those are good questions. The first one. The first one on the toe holds. I will actually cover that because we shortly. We did get some funding for that. And then on
michael.ellingson: garbage can lids. I need to do a little research to see which ones we have out there and how we can try to minimize those touching surface.
kristi steinmann: We had another one about if the
kristi steinmann: In the classrooms.
kristi steinmann: Will the
kristi steinmann: cleaning supplies that are provided match the size of the class so that you don't have a big line of students waiting for one water bottle or one spray bottle and paper towels.
michael.ellingson: Yeah, we do have we, we do have some that have more than one
michael.ellingson: Right now, I have to say our biggest challenge is
michael.ellingson: Supply issues delivery issues we've had bottles on order for literally almost three months. And we're struggling getting bottles now.
michael.ellingson: I just our goal is not to go just stick any bottle out there because there's a printing that goes on these bottles that talk about the chemical or EPA or
michael.ellingson: CDC or whatever material that's on them. And so I'm trying to stick with the the bottles specific from the vendor. We, in some cases have purchased bottles and the vendors, giving us a new
michael.ellingson: sticker that goes on top of those. So now we're trying to get them. So we're going to start with one and we'll gladly add more and some of the bigger ones like some of the auditoriums will do more than one to start with.
michael.ellingson: But initially, I just want to make sure that we can get them spread out to every place to start with and then we'll start adding more as as time permits.
kristi steinmann: Right. And then there's a question. Is it better to spray and wipe or spray and leave the solution on the surface.
michael.ellingson: Um, so what I would say is, is that with time. This product does create a sticky appearance.
michael.ellingson: It needs technically you will see people that will wipe it off. And the reason they wipe it off is just saw that it isn't.
michael.ellingson: The right way, but it does leave a tacky feel with time. Now what our custodians do
michael.ellingson: In rooms and the door handles once a week, we will go and use a neutral Iser and that on all of the finishes and that should take the sticky feeling, feeling off.
michael.ellingson: So there is something we do, and in the classrooms, we would be looking at doing the same thing. So it might get a little bit tacky on some of the surfaces during the week but hopefully are neutralized or will take care of that.
kristi steinmann: Okay, and the
Bathroom speak to
michael.ellingson: Me, I didn't catch that.
kristi steinmann: Will bathrooms quickly more frequently.
michael.ellingson: I get, again, we're going to try to do them twice.
michael.ellingson: Twice a day, if we can, but it again. At this point, our resources haven't
michael.ellingson: Have an increased. And so we're trying to do all these two tight or
michael.ellingson: Double attached areas high top contact areas. And when we can you know we will try to will probably be sacrificing a little back. You mean to try to do some more cleaning and touching
michael.ellingson: But the cat, you know, the caveat on a bathroom is is that the minute somebody goes in there and uses it. Then it technically becomes
michael.ellingson: You know somewhat dirty are contaminated. So, you know, we wouldn't be able to sit there you know and and just constantly go in there and clean but we will try to hit it at least a couple of times a day.
kristi steinmann: Get a
kristi steinmann: Couple of questions about punch lists hand wash or touch lists stations for the sanitation in the in the location so that students don't have to
kristi steinmann: So they don't have to touch the spray bottle.
michael.ellingson: And and maybe I might have skipped over that in in the disinfecting stations that we're going to be putting in all the classrooms.
michael.ellingson: There'll be a box of wipes so they can wipe it down and throw their wipe away. They'll also be a boxing gloves and so that if the student wants to put on a set of gloves to grab the spray bottle go wipe it
michael.ellingson: Then they can do that.
kristi steinmann: And then I think the last one that hasn't been incorporated. Here is a question on drinking fountains. So is there anything we're considering. With this, the traditional drinking fountains that aren't the water dispensers and are we considering using them as normal.
michael.ellingson: Yep. And if we hold that question. Hopefully I'll answer that question in the next round.
michael.ellingson: And the next round is the first round of funding that we receive because I do have a slide in there on drinking problems.
michael.ellingson: So with that, I will get my mouse back to the right spot here and we'll go to the next section. So the first round of state funding.
michael.ellingson: There's different categories. And I'll just go through each one
michael.ellingson: Hand Sanitizing dispensers so Hand Sanitizing dispensers you'll hear me talk about hand sanitizers and then disinfectant stations and the difference is a hand sanitizer that material or product is made for being on the hands a disinfectant isn't
michael.ellingson: So that's why a lot of these cases, if we have a disinfectant station. We're also going to have a box of gloves so that if somebody wants to put on gloves set of gloves on.
michael.ellingson: Their welcome to do that when it comes to whitening and sanitizing dispensers. We're going to be we receive funding to put them in all of the buildings.
michael.ellingson: We're going to try to target the entrances. The of all the buildings in some cases we will go to a couple of floors. But again, we're gonna
michael.ellingson: You know the price of these products constantly went up and up and up. It seemed like because everybody the supply chain and everybody was ordering, but we'll see what we can do to get them more places than just the main entrances.
michael.ellingson: I said some floors will have them on other floors, you know. Hand washing is still the, the better method.
michael.ellingson: I know I got some requests, you know, could we put them outside of bathrooms and the thought processes in the bathroom has soap and water. So hopefully you can wash your hands there.
michael.ellingson: And we weren't necessarily going to be sticking any right outside of a bathroom but we we like said main entrance doors.
michael.ellingson: And then they. We do have some hand sanitizer bottles or maybe a 10 or 12 or 20 ounce bottles. I know they went out like hotcakes. I don't know if we've got any more back in or not.
michael.ellingson: But the intent for those is to have for like an office week and. And again, a lot of this is going to be based on how you know the X amount of funding that we got
michael.ellingson: Will continue to distribute it until our funds run out.
michael.ellingson: P P and I just make a comment that if there's some p p I just asked to go through central stores, because when it comes to reporting back and going to the state.
michael.ellingson: And for the way that grant and everything is working. It's we really need everybody to go through central stores from a cost invoicing tracking mechanism.
michael.ellingson: But we started right off the bat with class cloth face coverings. That would be to per employee.
michael.ellingson: We also allow departments to go in and get a box of disposable face coverings.
michael.ellingson: You know, that's for departments that have visitors or employees that forgot their face coverings or students or grad students that forget their face coverings or there might be other needs for them.
michael.ellingson: We, again, we start with two or we started with one if we need more. We're hoping to have more. I think we're going to have quite a few actors or funds is to have actors, but we just wanted to be able to distribute it out in some fashion to start with everybody.
michael.ellingson: We are working with disability services on trying to get some clear face coverings for the students that are deaf. We actually have a custodian, that is deaf.
michael.ellingson: And so we need to, we're working on logistics on how we can fit up specialty situations like that. There's a face shields.
michael.ellingson: I know I was asked to just make a note that, you know, it doesn't replace a face covering, but it can be used as an as an additional resource and then the gloves, the gloves, a help for cleaning and and other things.
michael.ellingson: That's the
michael.ellingson: disinfectant stations. This is different than a hand sanitation station, you know, the chemical isn't you know really meant to be used on your hands.
michael.ellingson: The reason we went with this is because we can fill these bottles anything of 24 ounce, I think, is how big these bottles are we can fill one of those for less than 25 cents a bottle.
michael.ellingson: You know, whereas a box of 20 or 100 wipes would probably cost 15 bucks. So we hope that this resource will last us a lot longer throughout the the school year.
michael.ellingson: And each one of these disinfectant stations, we have a spray bottle of the disinfectant. We have gloves, and then we have disposable towels and
michael.ellingson: Then I I think I mentioned earlier if departments in their suites and that would rather use a microfiber towel instead of disposable that's a choice. I just work with your custodian because like I said we launder all of our microfiber towel.
michael.ellingson: In some cases, we do have a few extra small tables. So if you have a teaching lab and you don't have properties work.
michael.ellingson: You know, we can we can maybe help you out with a small little table. We also have signs to put on the wall that says this is a disinfectant station.
michael.ellingson: And then we also do have an SD SD cards to go with. So if somebody wants to see the background on the safety product safety side of the product will have them to
michael.ellingson: Plexiglas plexiglass shields. We started with allowing departments to have five per department. And the nice thing is our carpenters were
michael.ellingson: figured out ways that we could make them ourselves and we're making them in some cases for almost 20 you know 20% of what the going rate is out there. So we've. I don't know how many hundreds, we put out yet that
michael.ellingson: We, we have had departments that they've given us their funding and we've been able to tell some departments that will be able to pick up more than five because the plexiglass
michael.ellingson: Is is the cost. So I were able to procure them at a lot read a lot lower price than we originally thought.
michael.ellingson: We did ask for some additional funding and for the second round, and we'll know more next week. If that happens, I just recommend I remind people on the Plexiglas.
michael.ellingson: cosmetically it won't stand up the most cleaner. So soap and water and a microfiber is your is one option. There's other products out there to for cleaning it but
michael.ellingson: I just encourage people because after a month. These things just white might not look the greatest if you're not using the proper cleaning product and then
michael.ellingson: We will have these in every register schedule classroom, a station like this for the students.
michael.ellingson: And then we're also planning to put plexiglass yeah the plexiglass and the register scheduled. Some of them.
michael.ellingson: The teacher. We're going to try to put them at every teacher station, but our focus to start with is that the ones where the students are going to be within you know six feet or eight feet of the station. We're going to start with the really close ones for installation.
michael.ellingson: cleaning equipment we receive funding for three different types of disinfectant sprayers there's one that's just a little hand sprayer.
michael.ellingson: That is battery powered, then we've got some backpack sprayers that will hold more they weren't good where we're going to target those as the auditoriums are trying to go in between, you know, a lot of seating. And then there's also a battery powered one are
michael.ellingson: Powered sprayer. I'll call it 120 volt the plug it in, like, a vacuum cleaner. It actually holds more than the other two products, but you're limited to a chord and and a little bit a
michael.ellingson: SS ability on that. So we've got a bunch of loans on order we did put in a couple of extras for some buildings or for some
michael.ellingson: I guess I call it buildings where there's a lot of departmental labs that will be able to check out and let departments use for their
michael.ellingson: Departmental lab spaces and then there is a case that you know some that you know this is this is Andy issue equipment. So if our custodians aren't using it and you, you want to
michael.ellingson: Try to loan out one of these sprayers we're willing to work with departments to share the equipment that we receive funding for
michael.ellingson: The only thing is I just have to understand is that if we loan. We own equipment out. We need it back because we we need our commitment to be able to take care of these classrooms and some of these spaces daily like we've promised.
michael.ellingson: I know one of the questions that Christy that asked earlier was the door toe openers. We did get funding for them. We've
michael.ellingson: Got a lot of them installed, we're targeting bathrooms is our main area, but we did. We did get a little the cost and the installation costs was cheaper. So we're actually going to go out and hope to buy a few more and get them installed.
michael.ellingson: Catalyst bathroom fixtures.
michael.ellingson: Our first round. We're going to do a bunch of faucets on campus now. Yeah, you might go to a bathroom and there might be three or four or five sets or whatnot. We're not going to replace all of them. And the reason is, is these touch list fixtures.
michael.ellingson: Their, their maintenance challenge that time. So they lot of them will operate off of batteries and then they also have a sensor that can go bad. And the last thing I want to have happen is to go to a bathroom and have
michael.ellingson: Batteries fail and one and sensors fail, on the other, and then you can't get any water out of the faucet. So we're always still going to leave a
michael.ellingson: Try to leave a manual faucets know some of the buildings like some of them, the bathrooms in the Memorial Union, they're all that's the way they are, but we've
michael.ellingson: There's enough fixtures there where the probability of having them all fail once isn't real high but in some of these smaller buildings we
michael.ellingson: Were going to do both. So I'll hopefully I just wanted to explain why we didn't do them all, but we're trying to do some in every building so that people have their choice.
michael.ellingson: In the second round of funding, we did ask for some additional funds to do more toilets and urinals. And we're waiting to see if
michael.ellingson: If we are successful on that and we're are our mode of operation is we're trying to target the high use buildings first and then we're working our way out to
michael.ellingson: The other buildings, but we are going to try to target, most of them on campus.
michael.ellingson: Power door operators, we didn't put in some money for power door operators. Now generally
michael.ellingson: Or historically, I'll say that we we install them because Ada, but we're also going to try to install some not because Ada, but just a give the ability to somebody to push a button with their knee.
michael.ellingson: Or some other glove or whatnot and open a door without having to grab the handle. So we will, these are these are very expensive and
michael.ellingson: And they're a lot of work because you need power and everything else. So we need to also change out the door hardware and whatnot. We won't be putting a lot of these in, but I just wanted you to be aware of. We were trying to install some of these on campus.
michael.ellingson: Automatic bottle filling stations. We plan to replace some standard water fountains on campus with these automatic touch list filling stations.
michael.ellingson: The International Building Code requires that we have fountains and most of our buildings. And so we're going to replace just a standard fault and with one that has an automatic filling station so people have the ability to get water and not have to touch anything.
michael.ellingson: And again, the new ones should be touch list.
michael.ellingson: Just a few other, you know, not necessarily related to buildings. I just wanted to say that we did receive some funding. We're going to try to increase some Matt bus frequencies on campus to alleviate you know to full of buses.
michael.ellingson: We did receive some funding on portable equipment for
michael.ellingson: You know, maybe disinfecting a room and I just put on their UV ionic something comparable. The only thing is, is that some of that equipment.
michael.ellingson: You can't necessarily like a UV some of these UV pieces of equipment. You can't be in the room while it's on. So it would, we would have to use this stuff in off hours.
michael.ellingson: They weren't good for showers or bathrooms, you know, we might use them and I read life for only if a student is positive or something like that.
michael.ellingson: We also began, get some thermometers money for thermometers and I've been hearing different mixed opinions about these non contact thermometers. We're also trying to find some other ones.
michael.ellingson: That student health has led us on to more of a paper, one that seems to be more reliable, but at least it's a benchmark. It's something that we have to offer the departments and we are also trying to get some white some
michael.ellingson: wipes that meet the disinfecting levels.
michael.ellingson: And we are just in the process of getting a few of those on order here shortly for special cases.
michael.ellingson: So that is the first round of funding the second round.
michael.ellingson: The first round was more focused on touching surfaces, the second round, they open it up, you could ask for some of the same stuff, but now they said hey, we're going to open it up because it seems like the airborne particles.
michael.ellingson: Are becoming more of a concern than what it was the first go around. So in the H back there were what I call five main areas and that's where your conditioning the air with some type of technology, whether it's bipolar plasma ionic UV. There's a variety of technologies out there.
michael.ellingson: There's another option of putting in a higher rated murder filter.
michael.ellingson: Cleaning coil cleaning. There's also what's called recommissioning and that's where you go through the controls and when it says you're outside air damper is that 10% it's really at 10%
michael.ellingson: To make sure you have adequate or that you you're hopefully getting the airflow that it says you're getting. And then there's human edification.
michael.ellingson: We were also able to submit putting in portable units where ductwork is limited or non existent. And so we put a request in 11 or 11.358 million and we are approved for for 2.7 by the emergency Commission next week. The legislation will hear that and hopefully we get approval.
michael.ellingson: And actually this is exciting. This is a, this is very big for us. So they didn't really find anything for humana vacation. They didn't really fund much for some of the recommissioning but they did fund us for filters and they find it us for trying to treat the air.
michael.ellingson: So, our focus is going to be on our goal is to try to do something and every air handler on campus, the challenges.
michael.ellingson: every other institution on in the state is going to be asking the same vendors, the same suppliers, the same things that we are. There's limited contractors. There's limited equipment.
michael.ellingson: But we're going to see what we can do. And we're so far we're ahead of other schools on this.
michael.ellingson: Because we're out there right now getting pricing, we're out there getting designs. We're getting that right now. So hopefully, once the legislation.
michael.ellingson: Me meets and they have and hopefully they approve it will be able to cut an order that same day, if possible.
michael.ellingson: We're also looking at portable units units were spaces that don't have ideal air exchanges or where there's no air handler.
michael.ellingson: We're also installing our filters. We need to get to immerse 13 and
michael.ellingson: I don't think we'll be able to do any duct cleaning. I'm pretty sure those top three bullets are going to take all the money. But if for some reason. We had some we oh we might have to see if there's some duct cleaning or recommissioning we could do.
michael.ellingson: So in the air handlers. Our goal is to do install equipment, the air handlers with returns
michael.ellingson: This is the most cost effective way. And the other thing is, is it keeps our utility costs down
michael.ellingson: And by putting it in an air handler.
michael.ellingson: If I bring a portable unit in a lot of these portable units will actually have a fan on them. So the fans going to be noisy. It's going to be background noise I do an air handler. We're already using utilizing the existing Airhead our fan. So from a sound.
michael.ellingson: acoustical perspective, you'll never know it's installed.
michael.ellingson: So that's, to me, the best and not only by that, by, by having an air handler. I'm doing all spaces. It isn't just classrooms, but I can do offices, I'm doing office suites. We're doing corridors, we're doing whatever that air handler feeds.
michael.ellingson: Right now we're targeting bipolar global plasma ization and that's one of the technologies out there.
michael.ellingson: And basically the theory behind it is is that this I on that's produced. It's a bipolar. So it's both negative and positive ions.
michael.ellingson: It collects and is attracted to the virus particle, it makes the virus particle bigger and then by putting in the mer filters that actually collects in the filter and it stops and it doesn't sit there and recirculate um
michael.ellingson: And let's see here. The I've got some of the some of the technology. We're looking at just to give you a perspective there, they've already done some sires coven to testing.
michael.ellingson: On it and test results is after 30 minutes it's 99.4% rate of reduction. So, it is it is an effective method to try to help with the classroom air and and and room air and all buildings. There's other technologies that are out there that we're looking at. It isn't just this
michael.ellingson: You'll hear UV YOU'LL HEAR YOU G UV
michael.ellingson: You know those technologies aren't as good or effective in an airstream they're effective and being in and killing the surface, but a lot of those cases.
michael.ellingson: Like some of the UV and it's you can't be in the room. So, or you can't be in a bathroom, if you have somebody go into a bathroom, you got to have it have controls there. So, it shuts it off because
michael.ellingson: Of how it kills the viruses. Your you shouldn't be in those areas.
michael.ellingson: There's ionic generators. This is similar to bipolar. But it only generates negative ions and not that you have to have
michael.ellingson: A lot of things. The virus particles will already have some positive ions to it, but it's just another means. And then I just thought I'd also share that
michael.ellingson: When we renovated shack, years ago, we put in a dynamic dynamic air filter technology in that. And again, it's very similar. It catches the viruses in the filters and it won't recirculate
michael.ellingson: I know there might be a question about what about HIPAA filters and our, our air handling systems are not designed to handle and a half a filter it it takes so much
michael.ellingson: Power and air to try to pull through a HIPAA filter that we would be burning out motors and we'd be having we wouldn't be getting proper airflow to our spaces. So that's why, at least in our existing air handlers. We're not looking at a half of filters.
michael.ellingson: Portable units.
michael.ellingson: We are looking at some portable units for classrooms and what we're targeting as classrooms that have for Eric changes per hour or less.
michael.ellingson: It's a challenge to go through every building, every classroom and run the calculations, but we're pretty getting pretty close to having that done. I do know of two cases out there, South engineering and BBS both of those.
michael.ellingson: Are below the for air exchanges. So we'll be looking at putting some type of portable technology in those. And if we come across more, we will we will again try to put portable technology in there.
michael.ellingson: There's different types of portable technology and a lot of it is based on square footage. If you get to bigger room there's going to be a
michael.ellingson: That unit will probably come with a fan. And like I said, the fan, the bigger the room, the bigger the fan, the more than noise. So, and again they have all kinds of technology. When it comes to the portable units.
michael.ellingson: Murph filters thirteen's that's what our target is.
michael.ellingson: Most of the buildings on our campus have a low we have filters, but a lot of times it's the rating is less than 13
michael.ellingson: And I just wanted to share the reason we don't buy the murder 13th to start with is, is the average cost is four to eight times what the standard cost of our filters are so for spending 30 or $40,000 a year on filters and now we do put in a
michael.ellingson: You know, it might be $300,000 instead of $30,000 or it might be $200,000 so it's a the money that we're getting from the state is definitely helping us
michael.ellingson: But I wanted you to understand why we don't start with a 13 right away. And if you even go off town to a fleet or Home Depot or something like that. You'll see this they sell different size.
michael.ellingson: Different rated more filters and you'll see it starts at $1 99 and goes up to maybe 10 or $12 and
michael.ellingson: So anyway.
michael.ellingson: I just wanted to cover. Just a couple other this is just off the beaten path. Some questions that we've got
michael.ellingson: Over the last month or so. And I'll, can't we block doors open and our suggestion is not to block doors open. You know, people want to block doors open so that you don't have to grab a handle, and all that. The problem is a lot of these doors are made to be shot because of fire codes.
michael.ellingson: And so, you know, we'd prefer it's it's even when the fire marshal walks around and he sees these little wood shims he doesn't like that because you know we're breaking the codes and our goal isn't to be breaking the codes. The other thing is, is that when you do block the
michael.ellingson: Door open, there could be a difference in air exchange between the room inside and the hallway and when you all of a sudden now open it. It's like opening a window you create a different source.
michael.ellingson: For that air which can dramatically impact how that airflow is in that room. And so the room typically is designed to have the door closed, you know, the exception is like an office in an office suite, you know, the office doors are a lot of times made and designed to have a door open.
michael.ellingson: I mean,
melissa stotz: I do want to keep listening.
melissa stotz: My audio.
michael.ellingson: OK. So anyway, I just wanted to share that
michael.ellingson: That's why we're trying not to have doors blocked open
michael.ellingson: And the question came up about do block off water fountains and again there's a code requirement to have water fountains in facilities. What we're trying to do is put in touch less bottle bottle filling station so that people have a means to
michael.ellingson: Get water yet.
michael.ellingson: If somebody doesn't have a bottle or they can't reach the bottle filling station.
michael.ellingson: There still is a water fountain there. We do do the water fountains cleaning them in a couple of times, if not more, a day. So they are still getting clean
michael.ellingson: And then one other thing we did have just a couple of requests about large plexiglass shield barriers and spaces is that are right and the only thing is
michael.ellingson: Sometimes I just want us to we maybe need to look at where they're located high and how the room is set up because a big plexiglass shield and if you put up a four by eight plexiglass shield. That's almost like a wall, it can impact and I've seen studies how
michael.ellingson: You know Plexiglas can impact the air, big, big sheets can impact the airflow and how the airflow works in a room, so we just have to look at
michael.ellingson: How the Romans designed the airflow a setup and whether it's a beneficial to have a big sheet or not. The other thing is, is that if he put these big sheets up
michael.ellingson: It can be a burden to the departments for cleaning. So with that as kind of a high level, what we're looking looking at on facilities. We're still waiting on some funding.
michael.ellingson: Hopefully it'll get approved. It's made it through two out of the three groups and we've had a lot of work to do.
michael.ellingson: The other thing I'll just say is, is that we've been running into a few supply issues with stuff on order. So just ask everybody to be patient on PP and whatnot. And we'll try to get it to people as fast as we can. And with that, I'll open it up to questions.
kristi steinmann: All right, Mike. We've got a few. I'm going to start with the H back ones because there were a few of them just on that. So there's a question on
kristi steinmann: The ions and ozone and how is it going to be monitored, since it's not recommended for those with asthma and how is this different with what we're planning to do
michael.ellingson: Yeah, and and so some of the UV and that's why we're not doing a lot with the UV because some of the UV our ozone generators, whereas the bipolar isn't an ozone generator. And so, there hasn't. We haven't we haven't found any
michael.ellingson: Articles that the bipolar has any impact on it, but we'll continue to research it and I'll make note of that right now, but I know some of these units do have an impact because of the ozone that and I'm trying. That's why we're trying to stay away from the units that are ozone producing
kristi steinmann: All right, we have another one on acceptable. What are the acceptable rates of airflow exchange for each classroom.
michael.ellingson: I dropped something very well.
michael.ellingson: Today, and what I would say is
michael.ellingson: The guidelines that we've been given if we design a new building today. The target is six to nine is what they would recommend
michael.ellingson: We have any if I use the Glen Hill center. Most of the classrooms and the labs in Glen Hill are at least seven and some are
michael.ellingson: Up as high as 15 Eric changes per hour. That means every four minutes the air and that room is exhausting plus the labs on the third floor of the Glen Hill center there 100% fresh air zero percent return. So all of the air in that lab is discharged none of it is recirculated
michael.ellingson: So hopefully I answered that question.
kristi steinmann: And another couple of questions. One asked if the air handling plans include our one or are to the research buildings and another one is how our buildings being prioritized for upgrades.
michael.ellingson: I don't know that I can answer the the priority is we put a we put a request out there for contractors to bed and I think some of it is going to be based on when the equipment shows up in which contractors. I mean, we might have five or six or seven different contractors working
michael.ellingson: We will probably look and try to get some feedback from them, to which ones they should start in. We also I also understand that we can order this stuff until next week. And so we're going to have to work on.
michael.ellingson: Which buildings have the most utilization in classrooms. So where they contractor can get into some of this equipment and some of the times, we're gonna have to shut the equipment down to install it, that might be evenings weekends overnight.
michael.ellingson: So it's, it's, I wish I could say, here's the building but it's complex. You know, the Union might be high, the Glen Hill might be high, the library, the engineering. I mean there's just a lot of the buildings that could be pretty high on the list.
michael.ellingson: But it's going to be depending on the contractors and how fast they can start and how fast their equipment gets here, and which equipment gets here first, because each
michael.ellingson: What's unique about this age HVAC equipment is it's designed specifically for that size a unit. It isn't you know, here's a, here's one and it works with this.
michael.ellingson: 20 every piece that we get will probably be different for every year handler. So hopefully answer that I want to go back to any of the facilities that we
michael.ellingson: Own and then that we will call like the R1 are two and Barry and CLI and Renaissance. They are all in this mix, too.
kristi steinmann: All right, there's a couple of questions about if there's a plan to direct entering and exiting buildings and entering and exiting classrooms.
michael.ellingson: I didn't talk too much about sign age we are going around and installing and so like Glen Hill. We've got some signs up and are here. Exit here. It makes it easy when there's two doors.
michael.ellingson: But when there's only one door. There's really only
michael.ellingson: One way in one way out. So we won't necessarily be able to do that.
michael.ellingson: We're a little bit challenged on some of the doors because if you want to enter and exit. Some of these power door operators for Ada are only on one side. So unfortunately, that person doesn't have any choice they have to go in that door. They have to come out that door.
michael.ellingson: So there's other logistics that we have to take into consideration if we're trying to do flow of traffic that way.
michael.ellingson: But we are trying to put some signs up, if possible, and make sense enter here. Exit there.
michael.ellingson: Did I answer.
michael.ellingson: That I answered all of that question.
kristi steinmann: I think so.
kristi steinmann: Okay, another question around the signs that are used on the floors for where people should stand and some of it, I think, is go this way with arrows. They said that there are some issues with them adhering to the carpet.
kristi steinmann: And are there other things they can use to stick them to the carpet like duct tape. Is there anything you would advise on with how to get them to stick
michael.ellingson: You know, that's going to be a challenge.
michael.ellingson: I don't have. I don't have a good answer at this point. What I can do is I can work with.
michael.ellingson: Pete Zimmer, man. I can probably work with Lauren McDaniel, because a lot of that funding came from University Relations, you know the challenges you you buy these stickers and they might work good on this surface, but we have so many different surfaces on campus as
michael.ellingson: Well, we're going to have to try on and we might have to order some other ones that have a different application or a different backing or different sticking or we might have to look at some other options.
kristi steinmann: Okay, another question. Will any auditoriums be sprayed between classes.
michael.ellingson: Currently Not at this time.
kristi steinmann: Alright, another one. What is the required contact time for the spray disinfectant in the classrooms. Most require the service to remain wet for a certain amount of time. So, just wondering if we know what it is. With this solution. We're using
michael.ellingson: I believe the the quad the bottles that is there i i should a double check. But I Last I heard, I thought it was 10 minutes or less or tea right around 10 minutes
michael.ellingson: But I can confirm that, and I can have Pete
michael.ellingson: Confirm that
kristi steinmann: And another question or any toilets having lids installed.
michael.ellingson: Not to my knowledge.
michael.ellingson: Very good. I want to go back to I want to go back to the previous question. The other thing about some of this on the cleaner. When you say that contact time
michael.ellingson: If you spray it and it sits there you spray it, it leaves a little residue behind that still active for you know days so
michael.ellingson: You know, if somebody comes and wipes it down and they don't touch it. And the next person comes in. It's, it's, it's still fully active at that point. So,
michael.ellingson: I just wanted your to think that just because somebody sprays on him. It might already have some residue that's fully active and still potent. So, all right.
kristi steinmann: So I feel like we're doing rapid fire quiz show here.
kristi steinmann: Is there any update on the drink on drinking water bottles, while in class. Are we restricting students from having water bottles in in class.
michael.ellingson: Or that that that one. I'm going to have to take to another group.
michael.ellingson: I don't, I don't know how to answer that one right now.
Okay.
kristi steinmann: Can we reserve green spaces on campus. I think there was a discussion yesterday around using green spaces for classes.
michael.ellingson: Um, and I think we can you know we're I will take that with a task and we will come up with a game plan how we do that. It'll be
michael.ellingson: Yeah, well, we'll figure out a way how we can do it so that not everybody shows up at the same green space.
kristi steinmann: There's a question on what option do distance sites have to receive some of the filtering, are they considered in your in your planning for that you're filtering.
kristi steinmann: And I'm not sure which distance site. They're referring to. So if whoever asked that question is still on if they want to clarify that in the chat to
kristi steinmann: Another question just while we wait on that will teaching labs are specially spaces be evaluated for air flow.
michael.ellingson: Um, we can. I think we've already done some because some departments ever reached out to us.
michael.ellingson: And but at this. We haven't done every building, every space at this point. But if somebody has a question. They can reach out, call me or they can call Brett. The cray. And we can do some research for them.
kristi steinmann: Okay. And I think that that question about the distance sites was referring to the Bismarck nursing program.
michael.ellingson: Okay, yeah. And what we would probably do in that case is is that we would have the flexibility of looking at portable units, they're being we don't service or maintain the exit their current system, it would be tough for us to go in and try to modify it.
kristi steinmann: Okay, I think I made it through all the questions I don't if anyone feels like there's was missed. We still have a few minutes left. You can either unmute or type it in the chat.
kristi steinmann: Oh, are we looking at disinfecting vehicles.
michael.ellingson: Okay, good question. So right now the protocol for state fleet is when a vehicle is is returned. You know, this is the ones that are not permanently checked out. But, but our
michael.ellingson: Are not assigned, but that are checked out.
michael.ellingson: Our garage here will disinfect them before. They're checked out again. And then I think out on our state fleet website. They'll also say that the bags are wiped down and then we do have a little, a little wife has put in the bag so that and then we
michael.ellingson: Have a bottle here that you can disinfect your hands. What before you go. So we are doing that now departments for vehicles that are checked out, then they would have to disinfect them themselves.
kristi steinmann: Right. We had a question to the air handles to be handlers to be acquired have the ability to mix fresh air, and is it controlled. And what about classrooms that don't have operable windows or connections to outside air or I suppose when it's winter and we can open our windows anymore.
michael.ellingson: Well, what we're doing in in the technology we're installing actually goes into the ductwork and so it yeah and you do it.
michael.ellingson: You know, you tried to do it before a filter or, you know, there's, there's, it's set up to go, specifically in a spot, but as he airy circulates around
michael.ellingson: Then it even the return air is
michael.ellingson: Is impacted by these
michael.ellingson: Units so
michael.ellingson: Hopefully I answered that question. Okay.
kristi steinmann: Another question on this hand sanitizer dispensers. Are they touch list, and do they work with just by sensing without the need to touch them.
michael.ellingson: We looked at the touch those lines right now. There they are a touch unit because once you put it on your hands, you're going to wipe it all on your hands. So you're going to be sanitizing after you touch something anyway.
michael.ellingson: So that was the logic for not doing we did. We looked at some that are pumps and we looked at some other things, but for the amount of money that we were allocated.
michael.ellingson: We felt we could do more for the campus and having the stations and again after you pump it you're going to wait for your whole hands with it, you should be. Did you know you're sanitizing your hands after that not touching the
kristi steinmann: Question around drinking fountains, can we close them in campus buildings and encourage people to only water bottles.
michael.ellingson: Again, the reason we have them open is is the inner man here, the International Building codes require them to be operable
michael.ellingson: There's not a requirement for bottle fillers. But we're installing them to try to encourage that. But I'm not, I'm not in not not looking to start breaking building codes out there.
kristi steinmann: Yet another question our residence halls being looked at for improved airflow.
michael.ellingson: I'm
michael.ellingson: We've looked at some things were there are some cases.
michael.ellingson: There are some cases that we can do stuff in the hallways and that but we didn't receive enough funding to do all of the residence halls. Each room.
michael.ellingson: Because each of them in, in most cases each room has its own heating and or cooling unit. What I would say is, most of them are just a heating unit and
michael.ellingson: A
michael.ellingson: You start thinking about how many rooms that we have. And yeah, like I said, we, we asked for $11 million and we got 2.7 so we're targeting the academic areas, but one of the things that we are doing is we are giving them.
michael.ellingson: Some of the disinfecting. We do have touch less not in their necessary their rooms, but we're doing some no touch surfaces. Their hand sanitizers disinfecting stations. So we're trying to, we're also helping them with some of those products.
kristi steinmann: Alright, I think we reached the bottom of the questions and we are at space right now or at that time. Sorry.
kristi steinmann: Time reading something else. At the same time, we're at time. So we'll post this recording, I think Laura will send it out like we did. Yes. With yesterday's recording and there was a question, Mike, if we could send out your slides as well.
Okay.
michael.ellingson: I suppose I have send that to you, then, huh.
michael.ellingson: Yeah, okay.
michael.ellingson: All right.
kristi steinmann: Thank you.
michael.ellingson: Thank you.