Marc Wallman: The top of the hour. Let's get started here. So, welcome. I think this is the last. Oh, Christy started recording. I think this isn't the last of our open forums that are currently scheduled
Marc Wallman: And as a reminder, there are recordings available, I believe, there have been campus wide emails with links to those and I, we still have to get yesterday's out and we'll try and get this one out as well.
Marc Wallman: So,
Marc Wallman: I am just going to kind of start by providing you with some information on where you get more information. And that's kind of where I think we titled my open forum is teach work learn so
Marc Wallman: We have en de su.edu teach and psu.edu slash work nd edu slash learn we had pages. So most of those that we set up in the spring when everybody went remote
Marc Wallman: And so we have those are probably going to be ongoing for us. So it's just a starting place where you can get information about what's what's available to you in these various capacities, so
Marc Wallman: So we have I'm just showing you the kind of the main pages here in the screen. So are those are teaching page. And there's all sorts of information on this and I'll kind of give an update.
Marc Wallman: I'll come back and for each area to kind of give an update on what's going to be happening for this fall.
Marc Wallman: And there's all sorts of information here training. We have some video recordings of things.
Marc Wallman: We've had weekly faculty open forums and there's information on how to connect there.
Marc Wallman: And so all sorts of information there. Here's our working remotely page.
Marc Wallman: As a reminder, if you are like need there's information about how to do the telecommuting forum, there was an open forum on that with HR
Marc Wallman: And that was Wednesdays. So if you have more questions about that. I'm not really the authority on how that works. But we do have information on that that was provided
Marc Wallman: And a lot of this stuff is going to be
Marc Wallman: Relevant if you are working at home intermittently. So, you know, if you're going to have to do some stuff from home as a faculty member who's you know i know a lot of faculty members do stuff in the evenings, for example, or staff to this is useful information.
Marc Wallman: That will kind of help with that. And then the last learn
Marc Wallman: We are providing information. This is kind of targeted at students and what information they need to have available to them.
Marc Wallman: I'm probably. I'm not going to go through the learn stuff in detail because this was targeted at at faculty and staff these open forums.
Marc Wallman: But I mentioning this out here, there's a place for those of you who do work with students, you can direct them here to get some additional information.
Marc Wallman: The one thing probably that I think that people didn't know about students didn't know about and probably faculty as well in the in the spring.
Marc Wallman: Is that we did provide an option for students to get remote access to the computers in the computer labs and the plan is for that to continue on this fall, we have a better solution that we got some money from our federal cares funds for
Marc Wallman: That's not going to be ready to go at the start of the semester.
Marc Wallman: The that options just going to be a little more seamless. But this stuff works.
Marc Wallman: It's basically gives you full access to all this stuff in the computer labs.
Marc Wallman: So that's probably the thing that students are at least aware of that would be good for them to know about.
Marc Wallman: So let me just kind of quick come back through here.
Marc Wallman: I have less updates on the. I'm going to start with a working remote a few less updates on that.
Marc Wallman: Pretty much all of our services are fully available off campus, some of the services that are run by the university system. Are you can get access to off campus with a few extra steps.
Marc Wallman: That is getting a VPN from the university system. I think most people who had to do that did did. So I think perceptive content, aka image. Now, I don't even know if I have the right product beings that's been changing. That's probably the biggest one that you need a VPN for
Marc Wallman: That's the biggest one, but for the most part, pretty much everything else should be available off campus, there should not be a lot of restrictions for on campus services that we provide.
Marc Wallman: Access method for the s the x and the you drives is slightly different from off campus. But those are also available.
Marc Wallman: And then it's also possible to get remote to remote into your on campus computer. I know we have some people doing that there's some information about this here.
Marc Wallman: Okay, let me come back over to the teaching, then we'll kind of just do an overview of all these and then we'll just go where we want with with questions.
Marc Wallman: So just general updates here. So our biggest areas of expenditure for prepping for Fall are additional technology in the classrooms.
Marc Wallman: And campus network upgrades, those are probably the two top items.
Marc Wallman: The classroom schedule by the registrar are partial there's a different state of completion on those
Marc Wallman: We will probably have none that are 100% done, but the base level of technology and all those rooms already will allow for high flex
Marc Wallman: It just gets easier as we add technology. Our focus has kind of been shifting to getting new rooms.
Marc Wallman: Brought online for the registrar so they could get to a 50% capacity.
Marc Wallman: So that's kind of where our focus has been and getting technology in that stuff.
Marc Wallman: I think with regard to
Marc Wallman: You know what you're going to expect for this fall. I think everything should be at a minimum level that it should be functional. And you can do what you need to do.
Marc Wallman: I will say that it's probably insofar as you can get. Learning Assistance to do help that would probably be a good thing. I know that the provost has had money out for that to help with that.
Marc Wallman: Couple other notes just on stuff that I've been getting a lot of questions about so
Marc Wallman: We do. I'm sorry backing up before I move on, we do have probably the biggest upgrade in terms of functionality to all the rooms is the touch panels that are in there. So you could draw
Marc Wallman: On them with the appropriate stylists and that would basically allow you to annotate what's on the screen. And that would be visible to
Marc Wallman: People in the classroom on the screens and it would be visible to remote participants as well as the screen is being shared. And you could also use it as a whiteboard. So for instructors are kind of pedagogy heavy on the whiteboard. That should work pretty well for them.
Marc Wallman: So okay, so the two of the biggest questions I have, apart from the stuff I've just done is, what about microphones and
Marc Wallman: stylists is we have ordered one microphone for every primary instructor and we probably have about 300 ish extra beyond that, that we're going to try and make available to
Marc Wallman: Learning Assistance teaching assistants, whatever.
Marc Wallman: We unless Christie is her differently. We do not have a firm delivery date. Those have been ordered several weeks ago, but I don't know that we've been able to pry a delivery date out from the instructors so
Marc Wallman: early in the week I was hopeful, we would actually or shake your head early in the week I was hoping we would have all of those. They're all of these available.
Marc Wallman: before classes start
Marc Wallman: I think the probability feels like it's waning, a little bit for me.
Marc Wallman: But I'm really just kind of guessing because we can't get them to say when
Marc Wallman: When we're going to get this stuff.
David Bertolini | AHSS Dean: It markets at a lapel mic with a
David Bertolini | AHSS Dean: Regular whatever they wanted 810 is where they call it jack like a
Marc Wallman: Yeah. So what we would be providing is the microphone and the cord that plugs into the transmitter battery pack.
David Bertolini | AHSS Dean: Okay, so someone wants to buy one themselves. That would be the regular headphone jack small 810
Marc Wallman: No, it's a different kind of connector and I don't know what it is off top my head.
David Bertolini | AHSS Dean: Okay.
melissa stotz: I believe it's like a proprietary maybe
melissa stotz: But I can double check on that.
Robert Pieri (he/ him/ his): No, it's a standard. It's a
Robert Pieri (he/ him/ his): tp D four pin.
Robert Pieri (he/ him/ his): Okay, and you want the miniature version of it.
Robert Pieri (he/ him/ his): But it's it's available out there.
David Bertolini | AHSS Dean: So TPC for Penn miniature okay
Robert Pieri (he/ him/ his): Yeah.
Marc Wallman: It's fine to do
Marc Wallman: I mean, if you get your own if you get your own. I can't guarantee it's going to be compatible.
David Bertolini | AHSS Dean: No, no, I know that.
Marc Wallman: Um, but you can certainly give it a try.
Marc Wallman: Put those specs in the chat line.
Marc Wallman: If we could get a confirm specs in the chat. That'd be great if we don't see them after the fact.
Marc Wallman: I'll check with my staff to see what maybe Melissa, you could help us figure out a good way to communicate that and exactly what we need. I don't know.
Marc Wallman: What we would. What would, what you would need to buy to have worked in the classroom. And basically what happens when you get this, you have the microphone. You just kind of plug it in.
Marc Wallman: And it should work with the transmitter and we have a standard, we have the same transmitter battery packs and all the classrooms.
kristi steinmann: And my firm, we couldn't reimburse anyone if they purchased them on their own.
Marc Wallman: That's a very good point that would have to be
Marc Wallman: Either you get your department to convince your department to pay for it. Or you'd have to pay for it out of pocket that is not a purchase. We can reimburse we can. We don't have any money where we can reimburse people for any purchases. That's kind of all
Marc Wallman: That's kind of all
Marc Wallman: All the money we have strings attached. So
Marc Wallman: Okay, so
Marc Wallman: If we don't get them on time.
Marc Wallman: We don't have a plan B. The disinfecting options are not great. And so
Marc Wallman: We don't have a plan B. Unfortunately,
Marc Wallman: Some of the rooms have catch box mix some of them don't. So it's kind of up in the air as to what would what there might be some options. They're going to work.
Marc Wallman: It come up. Can you bring in your own mic or you call in with a phone to use that
Marc Wallman: I think there's going to be challenges with that there probably are some ways to get it to work. But unless you're kind of tech savvy, it might be a little bit of a challenge.
Marc Wallman: So there's also a question about phone covers. I think we looked at those and we're kind of at the point where we can't change course on this.
Marc Wallman: I think we've looked at the phone covers and maybe you can buy those on your own. I think our ability to get phone covers is pretty pretty low.
Marc Wallman: So we probably can't pull that off.
Marc Wallman: Okay, so, um,
Marc Wallman: Let's see, I've just kind of scanning through the list here that as a reminder, there is a zoom license for everyone. Anybody who has India's you credentials has a zoom license.
Marc Wallman: Login with the SSL option. It'll you'll get to an NTSC login screen that hopefully it's familiar to you, and you can start using zoom
Marc Wallman: And that is, you know, students included. Anybody who hasn't issue credentials can do that as a reminder, there's also teams and
Marc Wallman: Blackboard Collaborate and I can see right here. We actually have a couple of the things I'll highlight before I just kind of go to questions. We do have a you can see on the screen. We have this chart that kind of compares all the features.
Marc Wallman: Teams is probably the
Marc Wallman: Far third choice on using it for instruction teams is very good for messaging. So if you want to communicate. So for work. It's very good.
Marc Wallman: For messaging. If you want to get you can get your students on board with this. It's really good for messaging. It's basically when you have it on your mobile device. It's basically the equivalent of the text message. You don't have to share your cell phone number that way.
Marc Wallman: One of the things I'll highlight here for instructors also on this teach page is this high flex classroom overview. Think this is Daniel is correct. We're going to look here, so I'm gonna, I'm going to stop this, but this is
Marc Wallman: This is a good video that kind of overviews what would happen in debt. One of the things that might be helpful for folks to know is Daniel
Marc Wallman: Kind of tries to microphones, with and without
Marc Wallman: Face covering so you can kind of get a feel for what that's going to sound like and what the difference in quality. It's all safe. I thought it was very, very little difference in what the audio quality is going to be with them without the face covering
Marc Wallman: A okay
Marc Wallman: I I've kind of got through the stuff I prepared.
Marc Wallman: And I will
Marc Wallman: I'm going to look in the chat and we'll do questions.
Marc Wallman: I see a question from Nancy Emerson recommended browser for zoom. So, zoom, it's recommended that you're actually using the client, which you're probably using right now. I think there is a web browser option, but it does work.
Marc Wallman: It probably is best with the with the client. And there actually is. We've heard some conflicting reports on this. So for Chromebooks. It's supposed to work on Chromebooks. I've had it work and it's been good.
Marc Wallman: We have had some reports that some people have had problems, but there is actually a plug in
Marc Wallman: In the, in the Google Web Store for Chromebooks and I mentioning that particularly because we may have some
Marc Wallman: Students who are lower income, the Chromebook is a really good inexpensive option, it can do almost everything I think responders LockDown Browser. We have a few troubles on there. But for the most part, I can do a whole ton of stuff for us.
Marc Wallman: Alright, I will open it to questions.
kristi steinmann: Mark. There was another question that I think Melissa answered in the chat. But if you join the zoom call you're using to broadcast to remote students could you use your headphones as a makeshift microphone, would the audio come out of the room speakers as well.
Marc Wallman: Um, so
kristi steinmann: Melissa says no.
Marc Wallman: No, if you, if you, if you take your I don't
Marc Wallman: Have any way in around here. If you take like a headphone
Marc Wallman: You know, like you'd have for your phone cell phone or whatever and you plug it in. I think you could plug it in and the room. I don't know that it's going to go properly through the room system, um,
Carrie Anne Platt: This situation that I'm describing I may not have described it clearly in the chat was if I were to take say my phone and sign into the same zoom call
Carrie Anne Platt: Yeah, insert in within the microphone on my phone amplified through the room, if I am on the zoom call
Marc Wallman: I think. Yes, and I think you're also going to risk getting feedback. Okay.
Carrie Anne Platt: It's good to know.
Marc Wallman: That's why I said
Marc Wallman: You know, it's a little. It's a little tricky. I mean, you can certainly give it a try.
Marc Wallman: And that's certainly possible. And you know another thing you may want to try as an instructor. If you want students in your room to sign into the zoom room so they could participate, the chat that way. That'd be totally, totally fine, too.
Marc Wallman: I would any time you have a microphone enabled in the room or additional sound coming out of the speakers on any computer, you're going to risk getting feedback and
Marc Wallman: You know how that will work is going to really vary by
Marc Wallman: You know the distance from the speakers in the microphones.
Marc Wallman: It.
kristi steinmann: Can also be a little delay as well.
kristi steinmann: Yeah, the amplification. If you're in the room.
Marc Wallman: results may vary.
Marc Wallman: And, you know, that reminds me. I'm talking about some ad hoc type solutions here, that reminds me another one that has come up that I'll mention
Marc Wallman: Holding classes outside so
Marc Wallman: I'm there are potentially some issues on the facility side.
Marc Wallman: On the IT side, the only designated outdoor space we have for Wi Fi is the babbling brook, there is significant bleed of wireless signal for class for buildings and that may work.
Marc Wallman: It's probably best to if you're going to try that and you've got all the space thing worked out so you don't have three people all doing a flash mob to the same space at the same time.
Marc Wallman: It's probably good to try and test. What kind of Wi Fi signal, you're going to get if you want to stream it
Marc Wallman: The, the reliability of your connection is much more important when you're streaming than if you're browsing. So you might be walking across campus and getting the bleed from the campus Wi Fi.
Marc Wallman: You might be getting that
Marc Wallman: Right now and say oh yeah I get campus internet when I'm outside just fine. But that might not be adequate for
Ganapathy Mahalingam: Streaming so I'd
Marc Wallman: Recommend if you want to try that, that you try and give it a test first
Marc Wallman: Another question.
Ganapathy Mahalingam: This is gonna put me here.
Marc Wallman: Yeah, I
Ganapathy Mahalingam: Was gonna put the here.
Ganapathy Mahalingam: On zoom video conferencing software, you'll get to see your video and audio sources under your video and audio controls.
Ganapathy Mahalingam: In you can select between your video and audio sources. Those are the two buttons on the lower left that you unmute and you
Ganapathy Mahalingam: If you click on the arrow you select your device that is connected to your computer. So if that is the case, can we bypass the Crestron panel.
Ganapathy Mahalingam: A for faster deployment. Can you just connect the devices to the teacher station or the zoom card and then use the zoom controls to control your source and choose which Mike is active, whether your lapel mic is active or the classroom. Mike is like
Ganapathy Mahalingam: Oh, the lapel missing.
Marc Wallman: Yeah, you could do some of that. But once you once you're plugging in and audio input device.
Marc Wallman: Excuse me directly into the computer. The whole room audios managed by the restaurant device in a Crestron device doesn't know about that microphone anymore. If it's not plugged in there.
Marc Wallman: So there are some options and there could
Ganapathy Mahalingam: Be some work right to get it to work. So anybody
Ganapathy Mahalingam: That can you bypass the restaurant panel. That's what I'm asking.
Marc Wallman: Yes, but then you can't i don't i don't think that you can bypass it and also have the in room audio work properly.
Okay.
Marc Wallman: Um, I think it will cause some issues with that. And then that might be fine. I mean, I don't know what you're so you know we have
Marc Wallman: Every we don't have, we have very few classrooms that are identical, they're all kind of different, and you're gonna have different size room. So if you're in there and you want to broadcast to remote people
Marc Wallman: And you don't need stuff coming over the in room audio that might work just fine, there's, you know, there's a lot of different unique situations.
Marc Wallman: If you're going to do that. Just be prepared results may vary.
Marc Wallman: I'm not saying don't do it, but just, you know, if you don't want to. You could end up thinking a bunch of time into it and then have your me know wishy washy results.
Marc Wallman: One thing I'm also going to note, so the
melissa stotz: Can I, can I add on to that.
Please.
melissa stotz: Also
melissa stotz: While I never mind, I guess if you're going to record your class.
melissa stotz: For asynchronous viewing if you're going to do that through zoom. I guess it probably wouldn't matter what I was gonna say is the it needs to go through the system to get captured through the icy
melissa stotz: For us it lecture capture
melissa stotz: But I guess if he did a recording in, zoom, though, then that probably wouldn't be having either
Marc Wallman: So a lot of the stuff. Will you to make these all these various components work seamlessly. If you start plugging stuff in directly your computer and bypassing it you'll lose some of this other functionality and we haven't done a lot of testing with it.
Marc Wallman: And so it's, I mean, I think we want to do that, to be able to tell you exactly how it's going to behave. But we do know enough to know that it probably won't behave totally as you expect
Marc Wallman: So, but, you know, honestly, nothing is quite as we expect these days. So
Marc Wallman: One other thing I mentioned here. If you're doing meetings and stuff remotely. One other thing is
Marc Wallman: Ganapathy comments about the little audio and video controls on zoom mentioned this, you may have multiple audio inputs on your device you're working. I do. I have a webcam on my computer right now. And I also have internal microphone and speakers. In addition to the microphone Cameron's
Marc Wallman: I have an internal camera and microphone. In addition to the camera microphone on my
Marc Wallman: Web and right now I just switched to the internal built in integrated microphone. There's a little bit older device here. I'm guessing. People can tell that the quality of my audio has changed, and is it worse.
Marc Wallman: Is that a lot worse.
Tim Peterson: It sounds like you have an echo
Marc Wallman: Sounds like I have an echo. Okay, sure. So this is just an example of different audio sources.
Marc Wallman: Generally, if I and I switched back here. So hopefully the audio got better like plugging in. If you're a remote person for anything, you may want to kind of think about this and
Marc Wallman: You know. Plugging in headphones is a really easy way to do it, too. So you can get your audio and
Marc Wallman: Audio coming out, you know, output coming into your ear and picking up on a microphone that's near your throat or whatever. So, or your mouth. Okay, other questions people have
Marc Wallman: In the chatroom, just go ahead and unmute
Carrie Anne Platt: Are kind of one more for you. Yep. I've been doing my best to explain to instructors. What kind of the minimal setup looks like. And I understand that it's variable based on classroom.
Carrie Anne Platt: Would you be willing to humor me and talk through one more time, what that is and what people might expect in their first week teaching
Absolutely.
Marc Wallman: Um,
Marc Wallman: Alright so I'm sharing my screen here. And we actually have a table. I think I may have been posted in the chat to
kristi steinmann: The third link on that page under General resources two
Three.
Marc Wallman: Good. Here it is. So this, this shows you all the classrooms. We're gonna be updating this as things get complete
Marc Wallman: This is not the best indicator of progress, just so you know.
Marc Wallman: To, like for example to install the zoom ROOM COMPUTER. There's a whole bunch of parts that are coming together and a bunch of connections that need to get set up and any one item could say be 90% complete but we're not going to check the box that it's available until it's fully working
Marc Wallman: So, but this will tell you what we have certified is fully working. And so at the top of this. Here is the list of all instrumented classrooms, have the following equipment installed.
Marc Wallman: And so ceiling mounted projector wireless microphone and that is for voice capture and or amplification a computer has a monitor DVD USB mouse, keyboard wireless RF Miles speakers capture cards for recording instructor voice and content. So you could do lecture capture and all the rooms.
Marc Wallman: Speakers interactive panel is the thing that you're right on. And we are going to hopefully have a stylist for every instructor also
Marc Wallman: document camera.
Marc Wallman: Air media which will allow you to like, bring your
Marc Wallman: Regional right so I need to show you my phone and bring your phone in and you could project that way from what's on your phone.
Marc Wallman: HDMI and RGB to allow you to bring your own device AV control system and that's that's the Crestron unit to help kind of control what devices connected
Marc Wallman: Blackboard zoom huge
Marc Wallman: So zoom has been added to all the computers in the compute in the instructor stations.
Marc Wallman: And there's a we have a system learning technologies. And so if there are students in your class city that
Marc Wallman: They should have already ideally gone through Disability Services, and we should be able to make accommodations for them, they might need. For example, if they have if they're hearing impaired or something like that.
Marc Wallman: So does that answer your question.
Carrie Anne Platt: It doesn't, then I'm still trying to figure out exactly what's going to be absent from the full high flicks that we've been kind of talking about and promoting to students.
Carrie Anne Platt: It sounds like if I'm understanding you correctly, I can go into the classroom. I can load zoom
Carrie Anne Platt: My, my voice will be captured and perhaps some of the student conversation will be captured through the built in microphone.
Carrie Anne Platt: But unless I bring a camera remote students would not be able to see what's going on in the room, they would be an audio only experienced before. The room is fully equipped. Yeah.
Carrie Anne Platt: You're nodding and then because I have the projector. Those of us in the room could see the remote students by projecting zoom onto the screen.
Marc Wallman: Bingo.
melissa stotz: Okay, also carry also care and I apologize if I missed you saying this. I don't think I heard you say it, you would be able to share with the remote students any content from your computer.
Carrie Anne Platt: Yeah, I didn't add that is an important addition. Thank you. Okay. Yep.
Marc Wallman: Here's a visual of it. So the zoom ROOM COMPUTER IS NOT
Marc Wallman: Is, you know, zoom ROOM COMPUTER isn't in a current standard install and that makes it just easy to join zoom meetings.
Marc Wallman: For right now, you'd have to have somebody in the room. Join the meeting.
Marc Wallman: Cameras are in some rooms right now. I don't remember how many off top my head, my, my guess is 10 to 20 rooms have cameras already Melissa, can you confirm
melissa stotz: If you scroll down that list of cameras are in, there's a possibility. You won't see any check marks and that's because the
melissa stotz: So you're correcting it and some of the rooms are physically installed, but we don't have been programmed yet. Okay.
Marc Wallman: I thought we had some rooms with the lecture capture that have the camera tour pointing to the front of the room.
melissa stotz: They do, but the touch panel wasn't updated yet. I think Micah.
melissa stotz: I remember making that same assumption. And I remember the program was the catch the catch on it and I don't know why, what would have been there last semester like
melissa stotz: Oh isn't something that works now but but with that said, I know that there's four rooms in pseudo that are actually where the cameras are working. I don't know if Danielle's updated that
melissa stotz: If she's done that yet.
Marc Wallman: Today wagon, as we get stuff done before. This gets updated. Yeah.
melissa stotz: I mean she she should be kind of watching it daily. But I don't know if she's done it today. They were new additions last night.
Marc Wallman: Yeah, so the other thing is that, you know, some. We have a lot of catch boxes i think i don't i my guess is that those are not going to be used this fall much they can be
Marc Wallman: And then we also have places where we'll be adding ceiling microphones, so that would be another thing that's missing that would allow better participation students that are in the classroom.
Marc Wallman: So really a zoom ROOM COMPUTER audience. Mike, so to speak, and cameras are probably the biggest things that people would be missing.
Carrie Anne Platt: That's helpful to know in terms of how to explain things to students as well.
Marc Wallman: Missing at the start of the semester they will be showing up as we go.
Marc Wallman: And we've had people working virtually and we've got two different contact tractors working for us right now.
Marc Wallman: So, and we've also had, you know, there's just also to supply chain issues that we
Carrie Anne Platt: We recognize how hard you're working
Marc Wallman: On
Carrie Anne Platt: It isn't it.
Marc Wallman: I just want to be sure we're doing what we can to manage our
Marc Wallman: Expectations i don't i i know we'll have some people show up and it's not going to be what they expect, but you can
Marc Wallman: It gets more convenient as we get more stuff installed you can pull it off with what we have right now it's sufficient. It's not necessarily ideal.
Carrie Anne Platt: Thank you for clarifying. Yep.
Marc Wallman: And the software that we need to do all this is all there. So the zoom licenses there, you know, collaborate is a good tool for this, people were using that a lot last spring and zoom is integrated with Blackboard.
Marc Wallman: Teams is really good if you're going to do eight kind of asynchronous text messaging.
Marc Wallman: Google
Ganapathy Mahalingam: I have a request.
Ganapathy Mahalingam: For be here. How about a question.
Ganapathy Mahalingam: Daniel was showing us how to switch between the classroom cameras and the document camera in the instructor facing camera.
Ganapathy Mahalingam: Now, can it be checked whether the document camera shows up in the zoom control so it's easier to do. So you just go to the video icon on the lower left corner of the zoom window.
Ganapathy Mahalingam: And you click on your video feed and the document cameras. One of the listed devices. Is that something that will be available. So that's a lot easier to switch to the document camera than the elaborate processes that
Ganapathy Mahalingam: I know actually using the
Ganapathy Mahalingam: Camera tool and windows and things like that.
Marc Wallman: I don't know. That's a good question.
Steven.Meinhardt: And we're
Marc Wallman: Don't know if we have anyone. Okay. Do we have anyone can answer that on
kristi steinmann: I don't know the exact answer, but I think we have video instructions on that. Hi flex teacher teaching high flex page.
kristi steinmann: Of how to use document cameras for zoom teams and collaborate
melissa stotz: I'm sorry, I don't think I was trying to kind of multitasking look to your question or for me. And I don't know if I really got the gist of this question.
Marc Wallman: Well, I think, here's a, here's a simplified version, Melissa. What's the. How do we get if I want the document camera to show to my remote students on a zoom. If I'm bringing me by zoom. How does that work.
melissa stotz: Okay. Um, yes. So, Christy did answer the question, and that
melissa stotz: I would recommend watching Daniels video because we do, we do have videos posted for how to share your document cameras using zoom Blackboard Collaborate or teams. It's a different
melissa stotz: It's different slightly different directions for each program.
Marc Wallman: Three videos. Yeah. And I think to be a little more specific a will and I, it sounded like an after you watch the video, maybe, but it will, will the document camera show up like another camera would on a regular zoom call
Yes.
Marc Wallman: Oh, well, okay, so good.
melissa stotz: And I hope I answered that correctly when you got to select the document. Okay.
melissa stotz: You have to go to camera. See that says where it's better to watch the link that
melissa stotz: I've watched so many different things. I can't keep the most Christy
Marc Wallman: just posted the link in the chat, too.
melissa stotz: Yeah, that would be
Ganapathy Mahalingam: Mark, Mark. I've seen that video that Daniel is posted. What I'm asking is, will it show up on that icon on the lower left of your zoom screen where you have your video feed it like you had your
Ganapathy Mahalingam: Trend share Mike and webcam and your choices to show the
Ganapathy Mahalingam: Top there, so it's easier to select your document camera than go through all that
melissa stotz: I believe it has to be selected through
melissa stotz: The system. I don't think it can be selected through the zoom software.
Okay.
melissa stotz: That was your question is
Ganapathy Mahalingam: My question. Okay.
melissa stotz: Yeah, my
Marc Wallman: System is joining all sorts of different video inputs and audio inputs and whatnot and sending it back. And my guess is that's why but
Marc Wallman: Okay, there are other questions here. Could we
Marc Wallman: Carry on plastic could return it. Is it the document camera and
Carrie Anne Platt: Asking if it can become obsessive video
Marc Wallman: Well, some of them are fixed.
Marc Wallman: Right.
Well, they get
melissa stotz: Right. You mean a source of video meaning like say the camera could be turned on the instructor
Carrie Anne Platt: Yeah, or anywhere in the room that would give people who are remote a greater sense of kind of press
melissa stotz: The ones that which are almost all of them. There's only
melissa stotz: Some, like all more than a handful. It's probably a couple dozen ceiling cams. And those obviously we they can only point down, I think.
melissa stotz: I say that, like, I know. Maybe there is some control and the control panel that allows you to move it sensor to. I'm not sure but but definitely the ones with the head on the desks. Yeah, if you move that it's just going to display display capture anything that's it sees
Carrie Anne Platt: And it can see up in terms of its focus it could, it would do okay with something further away.
melissa stotz: That would be like for an example, if you wanted to, like, just capture that.
melissa stotz: Kind of the general sense of the room. I mean, it would see things
melissa stotz: When I think of like if you were to put a document under it and you need it to focus like where you need the word the text to focus. I mean, it's not going to probably be able to focus very well from a great distance in terms of like words on a whiteboard.
melissa stotz: Maybe that would probably be pushing it.
melissa stotz: But if you're just using it as a general sense of movement in the room. I don't know it'd be worth experimenting with
Carrie Anne Platt: Yeah, or even just being able to walk up toward it with your face, maybe distance than a document would be, but then you can talk to remote students right
melissa stotz: It would definitely be something to
melissa stotz: Me, once we get the cameras installed them, then that would be the better option. But until they are installed, that might be something to look out
melissa stotz: Be interesting to see what it looks like.
Carrie Anne Platt: Something else to test right
Yeah.
Marc Wallman: Peterson, when will we know when classes that are going to be moved, are going to be moved.
Marc Wallman: I don't know how about before Monday the 24th.
Marc Wallman: feel somewhat I feel 90% confident in saying that, let's say 80% confident saying that
Carrie Anne Platt: No one's going to come into the middle of our first class and ask us to all relocate
Marc Wallman: There'll be someone
Marc Wallman: For all the very Hall classes will be a sign on the door, say your class has been relocated to the shack basketball practice area and you'll have to go up there and if you're on campus, it'll probably be headed you downtown
Marc Wallman: All right. Are there any unique issues for Barry Hall.
Marc Wallman: No.
Marc Wallman: I don't think there are any unique issues for Barry Hall.
Marc Wallman: I believe we've had meetings and stuff in there and I've had good experience with the existing classroom instrumentation, just FYI.
Marc Wallman: So I think nothing unique for Barry hall that I'm aware of. What about room 20. Is there a specific Nancy, I got two things about Barry from you or you have a specific concern that we should know about.
Marc Wallman: You can unmute and tell us if you want. Don't be shy. If you can unmute that everybody's on a device really can do that and
kristi steinmann: See, you are unmuted. But we're not hearing you.
Nancy Emerson: Hear me now.
Nancy Emerson: Now we can hear us. I have this issue with my headset that I keep hitting the mute button that's on the cord and I don't realize it very Hall has historically been not a good Wi Fi connect and mark. We've talked with you in the past when you've come to our department meetings.
Yep.
Nancy Emerson: And so I'm not sure if there. I mean, there are many of us who are unwilling to teach in that classroom because of it. I don't know if it's been upgraded
Marc Wallman: The Wi Fi is not part of the classroom tack and we can address that and
Marc Wallman: So I see Steve So back from my staff on the call. I don't know if we have Pete leverage from network enterprise networks on the call.
Steve Sobiech: I'm setting, Pete, a note right now.
Nancy Emerson: Okay. I think the issue was that it wasn't originally designed to be a classroom and was outfitted after the fact.
Nancy Emerson: That's what you've told us in the past.
Marc Wallman: So in general, with wireless
Marc Wallman: Anywhere in our buildings. If you're having trouble with wireless please report it and rarely to never do we encounter a situation that we can't address
Marc Wallman: And if. And just so you know I've said that you may have heard me say this before. I'm a little bit of a broken record, but having wireless have good wireless signal in spaces is not a static thing, it changes over time.
Marc Wallman: So if somebody does a remodel, and now there's different materials, you know, in the wall or in the whatever the signal changes or somebody puts up a magnetic whiteboard and that messes up signal that's getting to the neighbors on the other side of the wall.
Marc Wallman: You know, or all sorts of things happen that disrupt wireless signal and it changes all the time. So if there's problems. Let us know and we can take a look at it. And almost always, we've been able to address it.
Marc Wallman: There's a the one place where we probably had most troubles. I think the electrical engineering people tend to generate a lot of interference. It's pretty hard for us to overcome.
Marc Wallman: So I think there have been a couple issues in electrical engineering spaces. Historically, they've been a little tough for us to address. But if they just turn off all their equipment, everything would be fine.
Marc Wallman: I don't know if I can convince them of that. Okay.
Marc Wallman: Other questions.
kristi steinmann: There was kind of a comment. Mark from a couple folks about messaging to students and expectations being shared with students about all of the equipment working on day one. And if you have anything to add to that.
Marc Wallman: Um,
Marc Wallman: I, I don't. I know we've talked some about this with a student affairs folks and they're kind of in the loop on what's going on.
Marc Wallman: We don't do a lot of direct messaging to students.
Marc Wallman: On this kind of thing. And I don't know what's been prepped particular when they're not around most of our messaging is once they're here. I'm thinking out loud, a little bit installing for an answer on how about
Marc Wallman: Do you know anything. Christy about what's been going out to students, off the top of your head.
kristi steinmann: I don't think anything is directly addressed this concern.
kristi steinmann: Other than which
Marc Wallman: Wasn't ministrations
kristi steinmann: Yeah, they're aware that
Carrie Anne Platt: You know, part of our concerns is coming from the materials that have been created this far to help explain I Plex to students like you did one of those videos. Mark I did one of them. Margaret did one
Carrie Anne Platt: And so if that's what they're using to inform their expectations of the first week of the semester.
Carrie Anne Platt: Attending remotely not having video, they're likely to be disappointed. So having something sent out even if you wait until like the Friday before
Carrie Anne Platt: classes start that says this is the update you will be able to join remotely by at least audio on the first day and we are working to get cameras installed may help it not become an individual responsibility for everyone teaching to manage those expectations.
Um,
Marc Wallman: So one thing that I'm not sure about is I know we have
Marc Wallman: Christine I can talk, I'll talk with Laura astrology. I think I've been meeting with her on Monday, and I'll talk with her to kind of see if I can get more information on what's been What's gone out on their front to incoming students or returning
Marc Wallman: The
Marc Wallman: Some instructors are going to be delivering their instruction remotely.
Marc Wallman: And I'm not totally sure how that's being communicated back to the students. I think through advisors was the plan.
Marc Wallman: I'm just wondering, I want to be sure we don't end up creating confusion.
Marc Wallman: With students about this because some are going to get their head, their instructor remotely some the instructor will be in class.
Marc Wallman: Any advice on that.
Carrie Anne Platt: I think that
Marc Wallman: Figure it out. But just energy in that the tech not mentioning that the technology is being installed and will continue to be added through the semester.
Carrie Anne Platt: And if they have
Carrie Anne Platt: Questions about what is available in their course they could email there and start just something that puts it out there that it's not all perfect polished and ready to go. And so the instructors part if there's no video on that first time they try to connect
Steven.Meinhardt: Okay, that's good. Yep.
Marc Wallman: Christie and I'll sync up on that we'll see what we can do, what good communication channels we have
Marc Wallman: Okay.
Marc Wallman: There was a note from Suzanne in here. Maybe we should ask students to bring device to class on the first days.
Marc Wallman: I think I think having a students in the class with the device could be very helpful tool and help them engage with the online students and make the online students feel more of a part
Marc Wallman: What one dynamic and this came up. This came up with with might have been on the provost open forum. Last week I
Marc Wallman: You know, this whole thing with this chat going on on the side. Everybody sit in front of a computer changes the dynamics of how the information is shared and communicated and
Marc Wallman: You know there's there's things that can happen and and ways that people can interact. That kind of didn't exist in a regular face to face classroom where where that technology isn't there. And so, you know, taking advantage of it might really help students satisfaction and learning.
Carrie Anne Platt: Can I add one more thing and then I promise I'll be done for this.
Marc Wallman: Though you don't have to promise.
Carrie Anne Platt: Go ahead, the one of the one of the best like pedagogy tips that I got for managing the mental overload and this new feature that you're talking about Mark, which I'm actually really excited about.
Carrie Anne Platt: Is potentially making a student in charge of being kind of the voice of the chat that they're following what's being asked are amplifying it so you as an instructor don't have to go back and forth as much
Carrie Anne Platt: Sometimes questions are getting asked and everyone and others in the chat. But if you can have someone and maybe you pass the roll around where they get to be the person who does that that can help connect students and help manage the mental load for you as an instructor
Marc Wallman: Oh, from a non instructional setting these open forums Christie's been helping moderate all these and that has. So from what I've heard from the other presenters. I think that takes a mental load off them. So sounds like you're that sounds like that translates to the classroom to
Marc Wallman: through everything. Yeah.
Marc Wallman: Getting the spirit of having a moderated I miss something Christie.
kristi steinmann: I don't think I have anything that's missed yet.
kristi steinmann: If I have missed anything because I know there's been a lot of
kristi steinmann: Discussion back and forth on a couple items to that weren't necessarily questions. So if I missed anything, feel free to unmute and ask or type it back in the chat.
Nancy Emerson: I would, I would just lift up that Melissa pointed out that the phone covers. I mentioned that I had ordered phone covers
Nancy Emerson: For relatively inexpensive and she did say that they tend not to fit right on our classroom lapel mics.
Nancy Emerson: That there's a specific phone cover that fits differently. I'm going to, I'm going to use it and try it anyway. As a short term solution, but before everybody goes out and buys them. Just know that that's a risk.
Marc Wallman: Thank you.
Marc Wallman: All right. Anyone else
Marc Wallman: It was like we're winding down a bit.
Marc Wallman: All right, well, I will. Let's adjourn. And I will say, I've had one big success. This week I made it through this open forum without my power going out and I'm very happy about it.
Marc Wallman: As it continues to thunder outside
Marc Wallman: Alright. Have a great week. Everyone one of these are going to be posted online. This one will and one from yesterday will get the links up for that we have open forms on it for student or faculty, I think our next one's Tuesday or Wednesday, Christy you think
Marc Wallman: Teach nd edu.edu slash teach details are there. Thank you, everyone. Have a good weekend.
Ganapathy Mahalingam: Mark
Ganapathy Mahalingam: Mark one last thing, Mark.
Marc Wallman: Go ahead.
Ganapathy Mahalingam: One tips wanted for the faculty right now there's no power in our neighborhood. So I am tethered to my cell phone so advising faculty to have
Ganapathy Mahalingam: Cell phone with a hotspot feature is really useful. So it's absolutely no power and then for the powering the tablet. I have one of those bricks that supply power.
Ganapathy Mahalingam: So having those kinds of bricks that supplied poverty, a tablet and having a cell phone or a hotspot that's connected to the cellular network is going to be absolutely essential if you're going to have an outage right in the middle of your session. So my
Marc Wallman: Cell phone or on standby in case I lost
Marc Wallman: Power right now. That's good advice.
Ganapathy Mahalingam: Working from home page. Yeah.
Margaret Fitzgerald: I think the Emergency Management Department has made a go bag for their office or a few of them that has those backup things that people might need a power cord. You know, all the different selections, you might want to think about that, Jessica Jensen shared that with me.
Marc Wallman: Okay, thank you, everyone. Have a good weekend.